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takeittothehouse
06-06-2007, 12:46 PM
What casino in Colorado do you feel has the classiest (or not) players (for lack of better wording)?
I was playing a tourney at The Gilpin a while ago and a guy hit a two outer on the river. He whoops and hollers and GETS ON THE PHONE TO CALL A FRIEND TO TELL THEM!!! What??? Seriously??? Doesn't even say a word to the other player. I have noticed this more at The Gilpin than anywhere else. I have seen less of it at CCS. Just wondering what you all thought or if you even noticed.
Mondogarage
06-06-2007, 01:14 PM
What casino in Colorado do you feel has the classiest (or not) players (for lack of better wording)?
I was playing a tourney at The Gilpin a while ago and a guy hit a two outer on the river. He whoops and hollers and GETS ON THE PHONE TO CALL A FRIEND TO TELL THEM!!! What??? Seriously??? Doesn't even say a word to the other player. I have noticed this more at The Gilpin than anywhere else. I have seen less of it at CCS. Just wondering what you all thought or if you even noticed.
Actually, I've seen many of the same players at tourneys in both casinos. I don't go to Lodge or Ameristar, so I can't comment there. But I've seen the same players show up for tourneys at Gilpin and CCS, with the real determinant as to where to play being the tourney buy-in, more so than the location. Classy is as classy does.
PoWdA
06-06-2007, 02:48 PM
I think saying one casino has classier people than others is kind of the same as saying one free bar tour has better players than another (considering they all have the same gaming limit). It just really doesn't matter, poker players are poker players and you find all sorts of them everywhere. I will say that the Gilpin's tourney structure can at times attract younger more aggressive style players and the lodges bad beat and 5-5 games attract crazy rich gambling asians but in all honesty the most rude opponenets I have ever faced were at the station and my favorite room as far as environment is easily the gates.
Um thats all I got.
Brent_in_Aurora
06-07-2007, 12:37 PM
You don't have to tolerate them. If you wittness bad sportsmanship, let the player know that you think that was not classy. Some people make mistakes. That way, you can also see if they are just jerks and it gives them an opportunity to apologize.
If everyone gets up from the table, the jerk will leave. If a table breaks due to a jerk, the floor loses that revenue and they may pay more attention.
Without doing something, you tolerate them.
I think that some of the home games are actually the best run as they pay more attention to keeping the game friendly.
Bruno
06-07-2007, 02:36 PM
You don't have to tolerate them. If you wittness bad sportsmanship, let the player know that you think that was not classy. Some people make mistakes. That way, you can also see if they are just jerks and it gives them an opportunity to apologize.
If everyone gets up from the table, the jerk will leave. If a table breaks due to a jerk, the floor loses that revenue and they may pay more attention.
Without doing something, you tolerate them.
I think that some of the home games are actually the best run as they pay more attention to keeping the game friendly.
I think you should be very careful about confronting someone about behavior like that, at the moment of the behavior Brent. Usually, in the heat of the moment, people aren't thinking rationally, and confrontation only leads to escalation.
One of the keys (there are several) to keeping a home game going strong is ensuring that the atmosphere has some camaraderie to it. Whenever there is money involved and competition there are going to be moments when tempers flare, and if luck is also involved there will be some points where people will be angry over the outcome. That's poker. Whenever I counsel a friend about his home game, I always emphasize that the make-up of the home game can and should be controlled. If someone is a jackazz, don't let them come anymore. I've seen several home games that were going strong fizzle and die because the regular crowd didn't like the jerk new element....
Most people playing this game aren't properly bankrolled for it, and a beat hurts and angers them because they don't have another 19 buy-ins in their bankroll. Tournament beats hurt and anger because you're done, it's over, and you can't go to the roll and keep playing. People who either are, or think they are, good players hate the donkey **** in tournaments because their day is done. And some of those people will verbalize it. I saw it yesterday at the Gilpin when some young blonde donkey ***** donkeyed four people out with stupid plays at one table of the tourney. The last two people she donkeyed let her know it.
I've never seen a table get up and leave at a casino because a guy was an azz. I've seen a couple of people leave or sit out, but never a full table. I've never heard of it either. I have seen a full table start taking pot shots at the jerk though, verbal and playing. A controlled and quiet friend of mine once had the ultimate answer: "scoreboard"....
pseudoswede
06-07-2007, 04:49 PM
What casino in Colorado do you feel has the classiest players?
Where ever Doggie's not playing... ;) :D
Brent_in_Aurora
06-09-2007, 03:09 PM
I don't want to sound too confrontational, because I am not. I am more apt to just get up than verbalize. I am pretty cautious about launching into someone, but I have done it. I helps to be a big guy, though. The bottom line is that you have the power to do something if you want to.
takeittothehouse
06-11-2007, 04:57 PM
I agree with leaving a table if someone is being obnoxious, but I don't pay much attention to it at 2/5 or 5/5 bingo. If I'm going to play cash I know I will run into the people who call everything because it's only $5 and run me down (I admit I've done it as well).
I notice it in tourney's all the time and it certainly doesn't help the game!
Bruno makes a great point in saying that tourney beats hurt worse cause you're done and can't buy back in.
Wetdog
06-17-2007, 02:12 AM
Where ever Doggie's not playing... ;) :D
Well, I don't play up there too ...
Hey wait a minute!
badeys
06-19-2007, 02:39 PM
Well I don't know exactly which casino is the best casino but I know which one I will never set foot into again. That would have to be the Gilpin, I honestly think some of the worst players I've seen (and I've seen a lot as a free bar poker dealer) play there. Maybe it's bad sportsmanship but the last tournament I played there was a $40 buy in and I busted out with poket aces against the K 4 off suit. The whole situation was funny but left me in quite the mood. I have vowed never to go into there again. I started playing at Fortune Valley this winter and I really like it. If you raise on the 2/5 table to 7 bucks you don't get 9 callers, maybe 2 or 3. It seems like they respect your raise a little more. As other people have said it is 2/5 or 5/5 bingo and you can expect to get run down and you can also expect to run down other people, it's just that it happens a little more at some casinos. I do enjoy the Ameristar poker room, it's always packed and I've done well there most of the times I have gone there. Just thought I'd throw my two cents in!
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