Smoking ban: What's going to happen first?

[pseudoswede]

* People will stop going to casinos.
* People will quit smoking.

Will the casinos be able to build "smoking rooms" with slot machines crammed in them?

Discuss.

[Rick]

* People will stop going to casinos.
* Smokers will start putting the cigs out on non smokers faces instead of ashtrays :mad:

[PoWdA]

I heard that they are going to start charging bars $500 to get a permit to have smoking in thier bar. I don't know anything else about it though.

[Rick]

They can only apply for that if over 5% of their gross sales last year came from smokes.

But the Gestapo are trying to close that avenue now too. :rolleyes:

[dexman1349]

Personally I think it's more of an incentive to quit. Sure, the casino's will lose a bit of business at first, but I feel that will rebound relatively quickly (especially with an influx with non-smokers). I have several family members who want to play the slots, cards, tables, etc at a casino but are unable to due to severe allergies and asthsma (SP?) and would head to blackhawk at a drop of a hat if there is a ban.

I personally don't like playing in casinos because of the smoke (thank god for the no-smoking poker rooms though:-D ). I hate needing to take a shower after a night at the bar, leaving my clothes in the garage, and straight up reeking for 8-12 hours after a night out. I have had mild to moderate allergies, and because of that I wasn't able to hang out with friends nearly as much as I do now. I able to eat out more often, and visit bars more often too without needing my allergy meds. It's great for those of us non-smoker who like hanging out with friends, have a beer or two, then head home.

I'm sure Rick's going to ban me for saying what I've said, but after seeing what smoking has done to my Grandmother (lung cancer that spread to brain cancer and her passing) and Grandfather (lifelong non-smoker who now has severe heart and lung disease from the 2nd hand) I'll cheer the day cigarettes are banned like Trans-fats (in NYC).

[loomisdl]

I have oppositional defiance disorder...the harder they try to legislate away my ability to smoke the more I'll smoke.

If it didn't annoy anyone, I'd probably quit.

[Rick]

If it didn't annoy anyone, I'd probably quit.

I agree. I used to be a very considerate smoker. Not now. I go out of my way to be upwind of anyone when I smoke, smoke at building entrances, dang sure looked like 15' feet to me, call a cop if you don't like it ;) and now I make sure to empty my car ashtrays at traffic lights and in parking lots rather than my home trash :)

Especially when I have to misfortune to have to go to Boulder. :-D

[dexman1349]

I agree. I used to be a very considerate smoker. Not now. I go out of my way to be upwind of anyone when I smoke, smoke at building entrances, dang sure looked like 15' feet to me, call a cop if you don't like it ;) and now I make sure to empty my car ashtrays at traffic lights and in parking lots rather than my home trash :)

Especially when I have to misfortune to have to go to Boulder. :-D

That makes about as much sense as a submarine with a screen door. My feelings towards smokers has remained the same: I don't give a $hit how much you smoke or where you smoke as long as it doesn't become my problem. When you blow it in my face, you make it my problem. If that means a more petitions to ban smoking in more places, so be it.

By doing what you're doing with a cigarette, you only make the non-smokers want to enact more legislation to ban smoking in more places. More people are getting sick of the smell (yes it does smell even if you can't smell it any more), the health problems, and the clean-up caused by disrespectful smokers. Have you ever tried to clean-up a place that has housed long term chain smokers? You literally have to strip the walls to the studs, remove most of the flooring, trash the furniture and run ionizers for days to get rid of the smell.

I'm not saying you should go down without a fight, but you must pick your battles wisely. And blowing it in everyone's face isn't it.

I guess my question to all smokers is this:
What is the benefit of smoking? So far I haven't heard of one.

[Wetdog]

People crabing about everything raises my blood pressure. That's not good for me. I think that crabing in public should be punishable by a $200 fine. (I think I've just bankrupted Denver, Boulder and Colorado Springs.) Let the professional victims pay for their own misery and support my medical needs from their carelessness.

edited because the profanity filter doesn't like female dogs.

[PoWdA]

The bottom line.



It should be at the buisiness owners discresion as to weether or not smoking is allowed in thier bar.

End of story.




If you do not like the smoke in a ceratin bar then do not go in it.


Nobody is yanking your arm off to go inside.




It sucks because the majority of the people who voted to not allow smoking in bars go nowhere near bars yet they feelthe need to stick thier noses where they don't belong.

The anti-smoking laws are rediculous.






If you don't want to sit in a smoking bar then don't. We are grown adults who are allowed to smoke and should be allowed to do so at bars where drinking (which kills more people than anyhting) is allowed.

If you want no smoking then go to a non-smoking establishment but in the mean time please get the f out of my buisiness and stop whining.


that is all.

[dexman1349]

Here's another spoon to stir the proverbial pot:


An article from 9news.com about another proposed smoking ban in Aurora. They are proposing to ban smoking within a car if children are passengers.
http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=64337